480 | Out of Public School into Homeschooling with Jill Simonian from PragerU (Jessica Smartt)
Show Notes:
Jill and Jessica talk about public school vs. homeschooling, the transition out of public schooling, and whether or not to encourage your kids to go to college.
About Jill
Jill Simonian is Director of Outreach for PragerU Resources for Educators & Parents (PREP) and PragerU Kids. PragerU Kids offers families and educators free children's edutainment with shows, videos, resources, and books that honor and celebrate American values and history for Kindergarten through 12th grades. Jill is frequently seen and heard discussing education across media outlets, including Newsmax, Fox News, OAN, and more.
Jill is a former television host & media contributor, founder of TheFABMom blog, and published author. Previously, Jill was known for straight-talking parenting segments on Los Angeles' KCBS, KCAL, KTLA, KTTV as well as HLN/CNN, TODAY Show, Hallmark Channel, and more between 2011-2020. Prior to 2011, Jill was a full-time entertainment reporter and television host for a variety of cable news networks. Jill is a graduate of UCLA and resides in California with her husband and two children.
Connect with Jill via PragerU.com/kids and Instagram/Twitter @jillsimonian.
About Jessica
Jessica is a wife, homeschool mom of three, author, and blogger. She lives in sunny North Carolina on a big family farm with chickens, goats, cousins, and lots of mud.
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Show Transcript:
Jessica Smartt Hey, everybody! Welcome to The Homeschool Solutions Show. My name is Jessica Smartt and I'm one of the many hosts here on the podcast. I'm also the author of Memory Making Mom and Let Them Be Kids, and the creator and founder of Homeschool Bootcamp. Each week we bring in encouraging conversation from this busy and blessed journey of educating our children at home. While the title is Homeschool Solutions, of course, we don't pretend to have the answer to every question. It's our hope that this podcast will point you to Jesus Christ, that you'll seek his counsel as you train your kids in the way they should go.
Jessica Smartt Hi everybody, welcome to The Home School Solutions Show. I'm super excited to be here with you today and I have a wonderful guest with me. We are thrilled to welcome Jill Simonian from PragerU Kids. You guys, this is gonna be a super interesting conversation. She has a very fascinating background. I'm honored to be able to interview her. I know you're gonna learn a lot—and they also have some really exciting products that I know a lot of us are thinking about: what are we doing next year, curriculum, lots of decisions being made—and you definitely need to listen up to some of the things that they have. We are big PragerU fans here. I just love what you guys do and so yeah, I'm excited to jump into this conversation. Of course, you know I'm going to remind you that this is always a great time to pick up a copy of my books. Let Them Be Kids and Memory Making Mom are such wonderful summer reads sitting by the pool while your kids are splashing around or whatever. Definitely, if you haven't read those, pick them up. They also make great end of year teacher gifts—throw that in with a little mug and a Starbucks card, and how fun is that? So you can grab those on Amazon, obviously. Let Them Be Kids and Memory Making Mom. All right, so let's hop over to our guest. Jill, I am so glad to have you here, and I know that people have probably varying degrees of familiarity with you or PragerU Kids. Would you just first give us a little glance at your life and how you came to be in this role that you're in and just tell us a little bit about yourself for our readers.
Jill Simonian Okay sure. Well, first of all, it's so great to meet you, Jessica. And I myself want to get a copy of your book, Let Them Be Kids, because that's one of our mottos here at PragerU Kids.
Jessica Smartt I will send it to you.
Jill Simonian Literally, that is one of our foundational tenets as to why we started PragerU Kids, which I'll tell you about in a little bit. But first about me, I have a very unlikely background, if you will, for many people who might be, you know, in this homeschooling, home education space. First of all, I'm a married mom. I have two daughters, I have two early teenage daughters now. It's so strange to say teenagers, but they are. And I started my career in media about 25 years ago. I was an entertainment reporter on television and I covered all the red carpets and I went to all the movie premieres and interviewed all the movies stars and covered the red carpet Oscars and all of this good stuff, and then when I got married and had my first daughter, I shifted into the mom and parenting lifestyle space and I started doing all sorts of different television segments about family lifestyle and incorporated a little bit of education in there but it was all very pop culture, fun stuff, celebrity driven, most fun products to use as a mom. And then the 2020 lockdowns happened. And at that time, my kids were in public schools. I was previously a cheerleader, fan-girl proponent of public schools, naively. My sister is currently a public school teacher in California at a very wonderful district that continues to hold the line, as we say, with our shared values as Americans, and my mother was a teacher. And my grandmother was a teacher, and we had always "valued" public education out of, you know, sheer naivete. I was raised as an Armenian-American Christian, we loved America, and we believed at that time in public schools. And when the 2020 lockdowns happened, my eyes were opened in ways regarding how the schools were being handled at the time. How the government was overreaching in many ways and infringing on the parental choices that we as parents have the ability to make for our children regarding what they learn, what they see, what they experience. I was very disappointed, I was distraught, I was sad, I was angry, and my husband and I ultimately decided to pull our children out of our once beloved public school because it was no longer beloved. There were too many things going on educationally and socially that really conflicted with our values. So in 2020, everything changed, and I started speaking out. And the CEO of PragerU found me online because it was the first time I was really speaking out about education because it was the first time that I was not employed with a news media corporation. Previously, I'd worked for CBS Los Angeles, and all sorts of different mainstream news entities. And so the CEO of PragerU Kids contacted me out of the blue and said, "Hey, we're gonna start something here at PragerU for families and parents. Do you wanna be a part of it?" And I said, "Sure!" And I didn't know what the heck the job was and quite frankly, the CEO brought me on as one of the very first people for PragerU Kids and said, "Let's create something together." And the rest is sort of history. I joined in January of 2021 and we created together our very first shows, which is Otto's Tales, the storytime show—if you go to pragerukids.com, you will see about 75 episodes of a story time show called Otto's Tales for kindergarten through second graders—and then we began writing the books that go with them about our American holidays and our American landmarks. And I then created, wow, three more shows for our PragerU Kids brand. Otto's Tales, Craftory, which is a craft and history show. I created the game show Guess or Mess, which is biographical history in a game show format. I created this show Unboxed, which is essentially teaching children about federalism and the diversity of states through unboxing clues. And yeah, it just has been a wonderful experience and we have almost, wow, 800—I think that's the last count—resources for families, educational or civics, history, financial literacy, good character, free on pragerukids.com. So that's where we're at now. That's a long story.
Jessica Smartt Yes, I have so many questions and jumping off points, but I do want to say first, just, I applaud you for your courage. I mean, to look at your story and the accomplishments that you have wrapped up, and then to say, really, I'm drawing a line in the sand and I'm doing something different. And it may not be received well by all of the people that previously have been having me on and telling me I'm great and... You know, that took a lot of guts for you. And as a parent, we want to do the right thing for our kids, but it's hard. And your courage to make an educational choice for your kids that was going to be inconvenient, that people may not understand. I'm sure there were a lot of questions, and maybe even hurt feelings. But I always just say... I have a kid with severe food allergies, and sometimes somebody will ask, "Oh, can he come over and do this," or "I made him this food," and I struggled with it for a long time and then I realized the trump card is his health and safety and everything else goes underneath that. So I'm not gonna worry about all the things underneath about how you might feel and what will happen. And so I always have oriented my life around like, what's the trump card here? And you did that. You put the first thing first. And so just way to go. And I just love how, frankly, I think God is using you and your unique gifts. This is outstanding that you've put together all of these products with PragerU. I'm curious about your family's educational story. How did that end? You pulled them. Did you homeschool them for a time? Did you put them in a school that aligned with your values?
Jill Simonian So, yes and yes. It's hard because it's such a... You know, we all have our stories about how we're educating our kids when we sort of opt out of what the mainstream has "schooled" us to do. I don't know if any of your—this is a side note. I don't know if your audience is familiar with Sam Sorbo, but Sam Sorbo—who has been a long time proponent of home education, look her up, she's fantastic—she was the first one who sort of ignited the fire in my mind of "you've been schooled". We have all been schooled to believe that there is one way to do something and if you veer away from that mainstream perspective, you're somehow crazy or... you know, none of that, none that. So whenever I say the words "we've been schooled," I have to credit Sam Sorbo because she's the one who brought that to light. But truthfully, I had been "schooled" thinking that public school was the only way to go, right? And so when it came time to change the educational choice for our own children, my husband actually was the one that said, "Pull them out." And I was like, "Huh, wait, wait. What, what, what?" You know, it's like, wait I'm not ready for that. And I tell you, I had just started working... Well, not just started. I started working for PragerU to launch PragerU Kids in January of 2021. And summertime really was the time when it was sort of like, I call it the come to Jesus moment, like, okay, what are we going to do here? Because are they going to start school at the same public school just because? Even though I know it's wrong, even though it's conflicting, I mean, I was having physical visceral responses to them going to this school because I knew that it was wrong for them. And we found a teeny tiny private catholic school eight minutes from our home that I never knew existed before and the kicker is this: this teeny tiny little private school was founded by homeschooling families. So it is this and I get weepy thinking about it right now because it is such a gem and it was literally dropped by God into my lap and it has the philosophies... Every single day at that school is about goodness, character, maintaining standards of manners of, you know, whether that's children... There's literal signs everywhere in the office that says, "Before you ask for what you need, look the adult in the eye and say, 'good morning sir,' 'good afternoon ma'am,'" you know, things like that. So this school is committed to educating and raising children up with goodness, with manners, with standards, with character, with values, with virtue. One of the models of the school is virtue. And then come the academics. And this school happens to lean into the classical academics, which is a whole other godsend that I didn't even know existed. It's one of the things that we really focus on here at PragerU Kids, is that the classical education format truly is the real educational knowledge that children should be learning because if they have knowledge with classic literature and biblical values... Hello, the Bible—amazing history book, right? So it was all of these things that this school really drew together and that's proven to be... I mean, my children still are—they're thriving. I see the way their character is developed. I see they way they are interested in things with a level of interest and discernment that I certainly never had at their age. We go to art museums. I have no idea what the heck I'm looking at because I was educated in a public school but they certainly know what they're looking at. And they have scorable knowledge and I really think it is rooted in the values and that is why I just— I have such an appreciation and gratitude for the homeschool families who knew that long before any of us did. Before I woke up four years ago in that education starts in the home and it starts with the values and then the academics grow from there.
Jessica Smartt I love that. And just hearing you talk about the school and what an amazing place it is. To think that you could have ignored that little voice that was telling you something was off and you would have missed out on so much. And I talk a lot about your gut and listening to your gut and I think there's something to that. There's something to the mom gut and if you're kind of like, I got a hunch about something, I think nine times out of ten, we listen to that. You know, it's there for a reason. And it may work out so much more wonderfully than you ever anticipated.
Jill Simonian Right. Right!
Jessica Smartt Yeah. Well, thank you for sharing a little bit about that. So yeah, PragerU Kids. I just have so many questions. So let's just say I'm a homeschool mom. Where is the first place I would start with some of that. If I'm like, "Yes, I am checking all the boxes. What you're saying is like, ringing my bell. I'm on board." 800 resources is a lot. Where would you go first? Just give us a little bit of what's offered and what's out there.
Jill Simonian Sure. Okay, so the first place to go is PragerUKids.com. And I really wanna say everything on PragerUKids.com is totally free, except if you want to purchase a hard copy book, obviously. Many of our books are downloadable. We have a book series about presidents. We have coloring pages for the little kids. We have book series about Builders of America, our Trailblazers book series that we will be launching. I think it will be launched by the time this podcast is shared. Many, many books are in fact downloadable, but if you want to purchase a hard copy book, that definitely is, you know, that's an outright purchase because it's a hardcopy. But if you go to PragerUKids.com, you will see a bunch of thumbnails with all of our different shows. The education levels, so to speak, range from kindergarten to 12th grade. So for our youngest learners, we really start with... I mean, I'm biased because it was the first show. But our very first series was Otto's Tales. And it's a storytime series. And what Otto's Tales really focuses on is the good character. And that is the, like I said, that is the foundation for a good education. So Otto's Tales has the classic folk tales. They're video storytimes, kindergarten through second graders. We have the folktales, the classic stories that teach a lesson. We have a lot of faith-based content that teaches our Judeo-Christian values. We have some parables from Jesus. We have Noah and the Ark. We have David and Goliath. We have stories about the... We call it the mighty Maccabees, about, you know, the story of Hanukkah, we have stories about Christmas, we have stories about Joshua and the walls of Jericho, faith-based content. We also have in our Otto's Tales series, our Today Is series, which takes us through the American holidays. We have our Let's Visit series, which takes us through all the American landmarks. We also have our Let's Meet series, which kids meet the people who keep communities working. So these are all values-based resources to share with our children about hard work, perseverance, equality under God, the values that connect us and unite us as Americans and give us gratitude for God and also gratitude for our country, for America. So if you start with Otto's Tales, if your kids are young, that's where I would begin. But if you go to PragerUKids.com, you can just click through every single content line. And it might be a little overwhelming, I'm not going to lie. It might be a little overwhelming because there is so much there. Virtually every video has a worksheet that you can download for free. It has a lesson plan that you could download for free. These are all supplemental materials. We have guides that can help parents enrich their children's education if they're studying the Constitution, if they are studying our Bill of Rights, if they're studying civics. For older kids, especially middle school and high school, the two most lacking topics in—I'll say, I know we're talking to homeschoolers—but the two most lacking topics in mainstream school are civics and financial literacy. And as a mom who sends her children to a homeschool philosophy private school, the most important things that our kids should be learning right now: how our system of government works and how to be responsible with money. So we have a financial literacy course. I shouldn't say course, it's a video series called Cash Course, and we have a civics series called Street Smarts. And for the older kids, they're not boring. They're fun. They're colorful. They're witty. They're snappy. They are smart. They have worksheets. It's a great way to supplement and enrich your older children's learning as well. So we really have everything.
Jessica Smartt Yeah, you totally do. Yeah, that is amazing. I'm kind of like, how in the world did you produce this in four years?
Jill Simonian Well, there's a team of over 30 people, but like I said, everything we do really is rooted in developing the values. Because merit and responsibility, all of those things matter. You figure if a child can read early, you know that they're gonna excel in math later. The hard work, the value of hard work, as long as we continue to teach our kids that perseverance and merit and hard work matters, you know they're going to excel academically later because those values will be instilled in them early on.
Jessica Smartt I mean, you're preaching to the choir. We still need to hear it. The choir still needs to be preached to. But obviously, we're like so in alignment with that. And I'm curious, you know, you've been out there promoting this and engaging with the public on a larger, broader scale and smaller scale. Has your message resonated? Have you seen people are like, "Yeah, we are on board with this. This is so needed." Have you experienced any backlash? Are there people that are, you know, not attacking, but where's the area that you might see pushback the most?
Jill Simonian We are attacked constantly by today's most prominent public school figures. And when I say that, quite frankly, the teachers unions, the extreme leftist politicians and organizations who have infiltrated our schools to muddle kids' values, if you will, in public schools.
Jessica Smartt And if I can just stop, I'm like, why... What could you even find to argue with what you're saying? You're talking about the values and virtues that our country was founded on and that are kind of inherent to human success and succeeding. So I'm kind of like, what is their, what's their line of reasoning?
Jill Simonian Well their line of reasoning, quite frankly, is that we are... They accuse us of being bigots. They accuse us of being... You know, you've heard that phrase "white Christian nationalists." I'm Armenian American. Our CEO is Jewish. They call her "a Christian nationalist Barbie." I mean, it's just, it is absolutely ridiculous. The bottom line is that unfortunately, and this really saddens me... I want to say this, there are many good teachers in schools that are very saddened by what has happened, but as you know, homeschooling has skyrocketed in popularity the last few years and I think that's an indication of how regular people, you know, I say like people like me who are maybe blinded to what was actually going on in schools—how our schools have been compromised and hijacked by far-left ideals that do not align with what America is. A lot of people have escaped that system because they see that it is corrupt and that it is damaging children. And the values that homeschoolers want to teach children, through intertwined with obviously teaching them academics, those values surpass... Those values have longevity. Whereas the non-values in public schools do not have longevity. We're attacked constantly. We're attacked constantly.
Jessica Smartt Yeah. One thing I thought about when you were talking—most of our listeners are homeschoolers, but not all, you know, since some people are just intrigued by the concept. A line of reasoning I've often heard from people who keep their kids in schools that may not align with their values is that they're being a light or they're standing against the tide. And then from the parent perspective, like we don't want to abandon our community and we want to stay. And I can see the merit of that argument. What would you say as someone who had your kids in that? How would you speak to someone that that was their line of reasoning?
Jill Simonian I have a few friends that that was their line of reasoning. And it was hard for me to understand that after I rescued my own kids, so to speak.
Jessica Smartt After you witnessed the degree of how contrary it was to what you were trying to do?
Jill Simonian Yes, it was very hard for me. And I'm trying to think of a way that I can say this diplomatically. I would say this as though I were speaking to a friend. I understand that you want to be the light and I respect that and it's a very admirable thing. However, why should your children be surrounded by complete darkness when they could be thriving in the light with other children of light?
Jessica Smartt Boom, mic drop.
Jill Simonian That's as diplomatic as I can get. I've said it in many different ways with much more colorful language that I'm not gonna share here. But that's what I say. And the thing is, is that, yes, we are called to be the light in darkness, but that doesn't mean that we are not able to rescue our kids out of the house that's burning down in the fire, right?
Jessica Smartt That's so good, so good. Hey, I feel like I could talk to you for three hours. Our time is dwindling away and there's still so many things. I wanna ask you this because I am a mom of a high schooler and so we're thinking about college. A lot of my listeners are too. Do you change your tune with college? Like, how are you looking at that with your kids?
Jill Simonian Actually, I kind of do. And this is something that quite recently, my husband and I were figuring out what to do, because, you know, I'll just get very personal with you, if it's okay. My children's school goes up to 12th grade. And we have been so happy with it, and we are still happy with it. But it is a very, very small school. And so there were a few months recently that my husband and I were discussing, perhaps, with our oldest going into high school now, maybe we should send her to a bigger high school just for a bigger breadth of experience, for more people, et cetera, et cetera. And we ultimately decided against it. She will be staying at our school that we love through high school. It is very small, but we decided against it because I cannot deny the feeling of good whenever I go to that school and whenever I attend one of their assemblies or she's in an activity or I visit the class or I volunteer, I cannot deny that goodness that my kids are in right now. And our kids are not fully developed at the age of 13, 14, 15, 16, 17, right? However, in my mind—and my opinion very well may change when I get there in four years—but right now, I'm sort of approaching all of this as keep them in the place of goodness, keep them learning the things that they should be learning, the things they should be taught. We say that a lot of PragerU kids: teach what should be taught, the classics, right? Which this school does. And then, okay, at the age of 18... Technically, obviously kids' brains aren't fully developed until they're about 25, 26 years old, I think it is. We know that as parents, scientifically. But the age of 18, technically is an adult. And that is when I would say, "Okay, you know what? Apply to different colleges, the big colleges, the colleges that might be outside of our immediate bubble, if you will. Apply to the colleges because as an adult, you can be the light." A child is not fully developed to be the light in darkness. But an adult? That's a different story, to me anyway. I may change my tune.
Jessica Smartt Yeah, question mark on our family here, too. I think where I lean is, yeah, I agree with you. As an adult, the capacity to do that is there. I went to Grove City College, which is a small Christian conservative university and I got so much from my experience that I kind of view it as yes, you absolutely, I think as an 18 year old who's been well educated in truth and goodness and beauty, you could stand up against that, but you would lack some of the things that I experienced in filling up my head and my little bucket and heart with so much. So I'm balancing those two things and it's probably not a blanket statement, right? Like every child is different, every family is different, every situation is different but yeah, I was just curious your thoughts there. This has been very, very interesting. You just have so many interesting things. Is there one resource, I would say maybe in PragerU or outside, that's been most helpful to you as a mom? Like either a book or a podcast or something? Is there anything that comes to mind? I know I didn't tell you in advance, so.
Jill Simonian No, that's okay. And it's interesting. Listen, I'm going to sound like a broken record. And I am completely transparent. PragerU Kids has taught me everything that I wish I knew before now. And you know, it seems silly because yes, of course, I work for PragerU Kids and we're here on behalf of PragerU Kids. But I really do share that sincerely with everyone that I know because I did not realize how much I had not learned about everything—about history, about how our system of government works. Everything—our values. When I first started and we were creating books and videos to teach kid's values, I will never forget the CEO said to me, "Okay, we're gonna start with American values." And silently in my head, I thought, what are our American values? I had no idea.
Jessica Smartt And you were a well-educated citizen.
Jill Simonian I am a "well-educated" citizen, right? I mean, I did not know: in God we trust, liberty, "E Pluribus Unum, out of many one." I did not know the things that I should have known and really diving in and doing the research and it really truly has... you know, I call it this... I've been here for four years. It really has been a university for me to learn everything that I should have known by now at this time in my life. And to be able to create these resources, to help parents teach their kids what many parents—we don't even know where to start. So I never realized how important it was that kids learn—from a historical perspective actually—that our United States was founded on Judeo-Christian values. I mean, those are timeless values. Those are timeless tenants that have lasted 3,000 years going back to the Bible, right? And I become one of those believers that even if... We obviously have freedom of religion here, right? So no matter what religion a child's family may practice, from a historical perspective, if you learn that America was founded on Judeo-Christian values from the Bible, 3,000 years ago, it has lasted the test of time: with morality, with goodness, with how a free society needs to function. There is not chaos, there is order. The Bible established order, we can only function through order. You know, that trumps all of these "isms" that are being injected in school. Environmentalism, transgenderism, all of these trendy "isms" are not orderly.
Jessica Smartt They're not based on the things that are going to last.
Jill Simonian Hundred percent. They're not going to last. So, you know, that's where I come from. And I always say as a parent, I never understood how devastating it was when the Bible was taken out of schools, you know, and look what's happened since that Supreme Court decision in the 60s when Bible was removed from schools. I happen to think it was a big mistake from you know... In my opinion, a misguided court, Supreme Court at that time, because look at what's happened.
Jessica Smartt Well yeah, I love what you're saying just because when you're homeschooling, it's tiring and you're living your hard days in a little bit of a vacuum. And so I hope that as moms are listening today, A: their brain's probably going crazy thinking of all the ways they could integrate these resources into their year. I know I am. But really, it's such a good reminder that what we're doing is important. And even if we don't do it perfectly... Sometimes I've said, "You're accomplishing so much good just because of where your child isn't." Even if you don't already get all the things done and the box is checked, just by what's not happening to them, give yourself a pat on the back. And we really need to hear that at the end of the year when we just feel like we're fading.
Jill Simonian Yes. Children learn by example. And the example that the homeschool families are showing their children is self-reliance. I cannot think of a better example than that. I don't even know where to begin, but our society, our social structure, our systems now are crumbling, for lack of a better word, because very few people are self-reliant. And just, you know, the sheer fact that when you are with your children teaching them, whether you're teaching them values or academics, but you're teaching them through example. And that's the ultimate calling. Homeschool families are the beacon, building the future of this country.
Jessica Smartt Oh, I love it, I hope so. And another virtue that I would say I see in homeschooling families that's I don't know, maybe not as important, but the ability to think for yourself and chart your own path. Like these people are trailblazers and that's a skill I want my kids to have because as we learned during the last four years: You have to have a brain in your head that's going to think of yourself and not just accept whatever is told to you because it may or may not be true. And so I want my kids to be able to be critical thinkers. And I think, yeah, self-reliance and critical thinking, those are two innate traits that... It's a good reminder for me that we're trying to finish the math book and we're only on less than 90 out of 120 and so we need to keep going, but like there's so much bigger-something happening. There's a bigger story being written. Jill, it was just an honor to have you here. Thank you for the work that you're doing, the sacrifice that you've made in your career to take this on, honestly, and to provide these resources for parents. Where can people find you online?
Jill Simonian Well, I'm on Instagram and X @JillSimonian. And also PragerU Kids is on Instagram. So it's @PragerUKids. And yeah, I'm just gonna say thank you for using the magic word, trailblazers, because that's our new book series: Trailblazers of America. Self-reliance, grit, through telling of the expansion of the frontier and the courage and the capability that so many frontiersmen had when this nation was expanding. It's a great read aloud for homeschool families and you can find it on pragerukids.com. Trailblazers of America. So thank you for using the magic word, but yeah, find us online and plus we love feedback. We love getting feedback about what you're liking, what's working for you, what's not working for you. We love feedback of all kinds. And I just really appreciate all of the hardworking homeschool families doing the hard work because it is difficult work and, you know, I say I have one foot in it. One foot in the homeschooling world with what I do with my kids at home even though they do go to a brick-and-mortar school, so to speak, but I just thank you and God bless all of you. Thank you.
Jessica Smartt Awesome. Well, thank you, Jill. It was a privilege chatting.
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